[NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Strange Request, Maybe?

Steve Egbert egbert at efficient.com
Thu May 10 10:49:03 CDT 2001


I had to get rid of the /bin/sync cron job entry because I wanted to spin
down the disk on my underused web server.

Will ResierFS still be quiet or still defeat the purpose of my hard drive
spin down?

Steve
mailto:egbert at efficient.com
mailto:egberts at skytel.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cbbrowne at hex.net [mailto:cbbrowne at hex.net]
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:10 AM
> To: discuss at ntlug.org
> Cc: cbbrowne at localhost.brownes.org
> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Strange Request, Maybe? 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 May 2001 08:50:30 CDT, the world broke into rejoicing as
> Bug Hunter <bughuntr at one.ctelcom.net>  said:
> > On Wed, 9 May 2001, Chris Cox wrote:
> > 
> > > Will Senn wrote:
> > > ... 
> > > > I don't pretend to understand the internals of any filesystem,
> > > > however, I have certainly had my share of filesystem 
> issues in linux
> > > > from unexpected power loss.
> > > 
> > > THIS had NOTHING to do with power loss... I think you missed
> > > the point... NT crashed and failed to reboot successfully at ALL.
> > > No startup screen, no nothing.... was not due to a power loss,
> > > happened after getting a BSOD.
> > > 
> > > As I mentioned, both filesystems will exhibit abnormal behavior
> > > in certain circumstances on power hits.  ext2 could be more
> > > susceptible strictly because of how it buffers things... where
> > > NT has an all-or-nothing style (heavy cache, heavy write).
> > <snip>
>  
> > If you are paranoid about power loss problems, put a cron job that
> > runs /bin/sync once every 5 minutes.
> 
> > After doing this, we have not yet had an ext2 drive fail to
> > automatically fsck during boot up without human intervention.
> > Before this, about 1 of 3 power ups required human intervention.
> 
> ... And note that ReiserFS is now in the "official" kernel tree,
> suggesting that it is possibly approaching usability.  It further
> diminishes the likelihood of needing to have manual intervention.
> 
> And has the further advantage that the "fsck equivalent" is guaranteed
> to run in seconds, whereas an fsck of a large ext2 filesystem can run
> for minutes, or even hours, in pathological cases...
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