[NTLUG:Discuss] [Discuss] age verification in systemd

[Steve Litt]

David Eddleman said on Tue, 24 Mar 2026 21:14:16 -0500

>Unfortunately this is the problem that systemd had a while ago. Their
>ability to solve startup and shutdown orders has been quite good

Yeah, quite good compared to sysvinit. Garbage compared to most of the
rest. systemd can't even carry s6's jock strap.


> and
>quite frankly, it just works (most of the issues I've seen has been
>from applications that pass a startup state as true while they're
>still starting up, causing collisions on dependencies down the line!).

You call that "just works?"

By the way, I've used the runit init system for 11 years now, and it
really does "just work."

>The issue, as I pointed out earlier, is they kept on trying to have it
>do more and more, soundly violating the UNIX philosophy that Linux
>carries: "do one thing, and do it well".

Yeah, and that's a pretty big problem for an OS that's supposed to be
DIY friendly. Those who want "my way or the highway" are gleefully
plinking along on their Macs and Windows boxes.

SteveT

Steve Litt 

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