[NTLUG:Discuss] [Discuss] age verification in systemd

[David Eddleman]

Unfortunately this is the problem that systemd had a while ago. Their
ability to solve startup and shutdown orders has been quite good and quite
frankly, it just works (most of the issues I've seen has been from
applications that pass a startup state as true while they're still starting
up, causing collisions on dependencies down the line!). The issue, as I
pointed out earlier, is they kept on trying to have it do more and more,
soundly violating the UNIX philosophy that Linux carries: "do one thing,
and do it well".

But I will also +100 on pulseaudio. Audio on Linux until recently has been
a nightmare, almost as bad as graphics drivers. :) Pulseaudio and wrappers
around Alsa have made it much more bearable.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 9:02 PM Everett B. Fulton <ebf at ebfulton.com> wrote:

> What's this "systemd" garbage I've been hearing about?  I've been a
> Slackware user since before the turn of the century.  Doesn't seem to be
> available even in the alternative package repos.
> There are alternatives to avoid such crapware:
> https://www.without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Main_Page/
>
> 'systemd-resolvd' is an abomination.  One of the many violations of the
> "do one thing, and do it well" principle.  K.I.S.S. is the way.
> Resolvers are hard to get right,  Run a real resolver:
> https://www.isc.org/bind/ - It's been in your distro's repo for far
> longer than 'systemd' and its tires are regularly kicked.
> Many of the BIND devs are the ones whose names are on the (many) DNS RFCs.
>
> About the only thing Poettering and his crew of sycophants got right,
> was 'pulseaudio' - It "just works" for most use cases.  For all else
> (e.g.:  JACK), they do provide the 'pasuspender' utility.
>
> -- Some guy who was signed up on this list at a hamfest, and I find it
> generally entertaining.  :)
>
> On 3/24/26 12:06 PM, Cornelius Keck via Discuss wrote:
> > Isn't that the Microslime-affiliated dude who came up with that piece
> > of useless unwanted junk to begin with?
> >
> > Why am I not surprised. Have to dig this up, but IIRC I've seen a FB
> > post where somebody forked that junk to remove that "feature".
> >
> > This is what one gets if one lets induhvidials with little technical
> > understanding pass laws with dumb excuses.
>
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