[NTLUG:Discuss] Does Windows from a partitioning focus control Linux compatibility issues

[charles shultz jr]

On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Allen <chef11994 at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Ralph I truly appreciate that very informative reply and while attempt to digest it let me > send you the results of lspci
> in hopes that with this info you might add some other needed info.
> The one thing I can handle well is gparted and I do have recovery disks should I want to
> get back to out of the box staging.
> My druthers is a latest addition of Suse, stay with Ubuntu and then just kind of play
> around and explore. Its my hobby so to speak.
> Could you as well comment why in installing Suse I must do it with acpi=off.
> Again thank you
> Allen
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge Alternate
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Toshiba America Info Systems Device 9602
> 00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2)
> 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3)
> 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
> 00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller
> 00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller
> 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller
> 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller
> 00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 42)
> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
> 00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller (rev 40)
> 00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge (rev 40)
> 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron]
> HyperTransport Configuration
> 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron]
> Address Map
> 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron]
> DRAM Controller
> 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron]
> Miscellaneous Control
> 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K10 [Opteron, Athlon64, Sempron]
> Link Control
> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc M880G [Mobility Radeon HD 4200]
> 01:05.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 Audio Device [Radeon HD 4200]
> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8172 (rev 10)
> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI
> Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
> allen at allen-laptop:~$

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Green <sfreader at sbcglobal.net>
> To: NTLUG Discussion List <discuss at ntlug.org>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 3:58 pm
> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Does Windows from a partitioning focus control
> Linux compatibility issues
>
> Allen,
>
>  The wireless problem might require you to connect briefly with a wired
> connection in order to get the wireless setup.  Linux can't ship some of
> the wireless drivers because the wireless driver licenses do not allow
> it.  In other cases, the wireless drivers are not shipped because they
> are really wrapped Windows drivers.  Picky people like me don't want
> those drivers.  You did not say what kind of wireless nic your Toshiba
> has.  You can run the lspci command to find out.  If it is a wireless
> nic that is poorly supported in Linux, it is fairly cheap to get a
> better one.  Used wireless nic on eBay are often under $20 shipped.  You
> do need to get one with the same bus as provided by your Laptop.  It
> would probably be Mini-PCI or mini-PCIe.

>  I think deleting that hidden partition causes Windows to not work
> right, but that is 2nd hand information, and maybe somebody else will
> comment.  You may not have even asked this, but I was not sure.
>  If you remove Windows and start from scratch, you should be able to
> easily double or triple boot.  Linux distros tend to cooperate fairly
> well.  Remember that you can share the swap partition among them, since
> only one at a time will access it.  There can be up to 7 partitions in
> the classic partition setup, so you could have up to 6 Linux systems to
> boot from.  And, if you want to experiment with the GPT, there is a much
> larger limit.
>
> Good luck,
> Ralph

> On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 14:34 -0400, Allen wrote:
>>  f experiencing the pleasure of many distributions.
>> With the Toshiba so far I have only been able to install 10.04 in a dual boot
> process wirelessly.
>> My question is would this incompatibility change if I removed Win 7 as an OS
> along with removing the hidden partition identified as recovery
>> and then proceeded to re-partition extended and attempt to load Suse and any
> other distros I choose

to allen,

deleting the backup/restore windows partition does not affect the fuctionality
of windoows one bit assuming it is working fine before the deletion and the
swap file is not located there.  however, you would not be able to restore
windows from it once it is gone.

if you want a multi-boot machine make sure you install windows in the first
partition then anything after that.  I always do windows installs from an oem
cd then customize, then do other installs from downloaded isos I have burned.
make sure you you go to the website and download all the relevant drivers for
the hardware for windows so you can rebuild if you desire.

later,
charles.....