[NTLUG:Discuss] Setting up VirtualBox OSE

[Allen Meyers]

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Robert Pearson <e2eiod at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 3/22/09, Alex Maurin <maurin.alex at gmail.com> wrote:
> > How do I make a developer workstation out of my laptop.
> >
> >  I have googled this, and still can't figure it out.
> >
> >  I have not been able to really learn python without being able to
> >  experiment on it.
> >
> >  I have little idea where to begin.
> >
> >  I am not familiar with the open source development cycle.
> >
> >  I was hoping my first project would be a
> >  platform-independent remote secondary package manager to help support
> >  techs install software remotely.
> >
> >  Basically, one would install this package manager using the primary
> >  package manager of the platform, using DEBs, RPMs or whatever.
> >
> >  I want the user to be able to install this easily on any platform Java
> >  or Python can handle.
> >
> >  I want to install Python Eggs as the packages.
> >
> >  Say I email my client a link to my website with a Java Web Start link.
> >
> >  He clicks it, installs it.
> >
> >  Now I walk him through the install over the phone, installing the Egg
> Manager.
> >
> >  Over the phone, I then negotiate a connection to his computer via
> >  passwords and certificates.
> >
> >  Once that is done, I now have the means to install further software in
> >  Python and Java, regardless of platform, by way of the add-on manager.
> >
> >  VNC alone does not work for me.
> >  SSH alone does not work for me.
> >
> >  I need to install services to use them.
> >
> >  I thought, in my limited understanding, that perhaps Java + Python is
> >  the way to go, all things considered.
> >
> >  I also thought that Java Web Start would work well, as the install is
> >  over the network.
> >
> >  I thought that Python would be the scripting language most of the app
> >  was written in, including the add-ons that provided
> >  platform-independence and services.
> >
> >  I thought that Python Eggs would be an ideal way to install new
> >  add-ons using this universal add-on manager.
> >
> >  What I actually want to learn is how an ideal project gets set up.
> >
> >  Here is my ideal afaik:
> >
> >  Python as the primary language.
> >
> >  Mercurial as the version control system.
> >
> >  DEB as the (default) package format. (I'll learn RPM JAR and EGG formats
> later.)
> >
> >  Where do I begin?
> >
> >  I love the ideas of Python and Mercurial, but don't know how to use
> them.
> >
> >  RE:
> http://www.russellbeattie.com/blog/distributed-revision-control-systems-git-vs-mercurial-vs-svn
> >
> >  Thank you very much!
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
> I would recommend you look at:
> <http://www.meetup.com/dfwpython/>
>
> In particular the meeting this coming Saturday at:
> <http://www.meetup.com/dfwpython/calendar/9915470/>
>
> The club wiki page is having problems while I am writing this at:
> <http://www.python.org/dfw>
>
> I do not know if you will find anyone doing exactly what you are
> trying to do with VirtualBox OSE. Many people develop on Macs. Nice if
> you can afford it.
> There are some valid technical  reasons for using Macs with OS X over PCs.
> OS X is wonderful with DTrace.
>
> I'm glad I answered this. I have been meaning to get back into the
> Saturday sessions.
> This Saturday would be good for me...
>
> As a side note, have you researched power users (real big time
> developers) who are using VirtualBox? The people I know who are doing
> Java and Python typically use PCs running Windows or Linux (if the
> company is not paying for the laptop and OS).
> The reason is that if it will run on Windows it would from a
> "no-brainer to trivial" to port the code to Linux or Unix. The Mac is
> a little more involved and not as lucretive a market.
> Some people are now attempting to actually test code before release
> which has been unheard of for years. Microsoft set the "new" standard
> for "testing. They let the users do it. They have "alpha" and "beta"
> users but the code they dump on ordinary users is pretty rough, which
> means there is a sharp drop-off in the skill/knowledge level of the
> "alpha/beta" to ordinary users. A problem we thought we had solved in
> order to sell software to the government. We refined testing to a fine
> art. Probably too fine...
>
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>
 I have followed this thread with great interest in the hopes that a
solution touching on my visualization concerns might surface. So consider
this in the form of a presentation request and not that my distance from
Dallas is meaningful, but I would be more then happy to travel the 100 miles
to finally set some pressing questions and needed demonstrations to rest.
Hey even buy the lunch for the presenter. Just to give everyone a glimpse of
what the expertised challenged encounter
1. Tried the apt-get install qemu ended up with icon on desktop VX2POEM_EN,
thought it was progress ended up with what appeared to be xp but learned it
was not. Did finally create ISO image got side tracked to what appeared
another option dd command and confusion continued. At any rate it is not
something cured by an e-mail. Anyone else interested in a presentation on
VM, VirtualBox etc

Allen

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Allen Meyers
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The ability to comfortably use a computer is directly proportional to desire
to listen, learn, and experiment, and is inversely proportional to the fear,
anger, and stubbornness that you show.