[NTLUG:Discuss] AN APOLOGY to NTLUG...

[Terry]

Just because RedHat has found a business plan that is lucrative is not
something we should not hold against them and I for one applaud them. 
And if you talked to a company that uses and believes in RedHat, they
will more than likely say something like, "Yes - it is expensive, but
it's good".  If they get the software they need and the support they
need, then the value is there and it's worth what they pay for it -
and for some companies, that's the only way they'll move to it -
having a support network to back them up and help them with the
software and the transition - and that costs money and lots of it, and
that's what RedHat sells probably as much as anything else - support.

RedHat is still sharing their code with the rest of the open source
community, right?  So what's the big deal if they get rich and employ
lots of Linux zealots like you and me,  :)
I for one just don't seem to have a problem with it.
</my2cents>

On 1/3/06, David Mandala <davidm at them.com> wrote:
> Sorry, I was involved in the early efforts to have a single community
> standard. A single community standard would have been far more valuable
> to the Linux communitly in general. RedHat chose to dilute the effort to
> make cash, slow adoption of other flavors of Linux and to enrich their
> own pockets. They offer an over priced product that does not reflect the
> community and actively undermines a single community based standard.
>
> To say less is simply incorrect. I don't work for RedHat, nor would I
> ever consider it unless RedHat stops trying to become the Microsoft of
> Linux. There is room for all distro's and plenty of cash to be made by
> all. It is however important to bring to the forefront Linux is Linux is
> Linux. RedHat is simply a distribution of Linux, they are not the
> standard of Linux simply one of the larger distro's.
>
> RedHat has a long history of fighting against a community certification
> standard and the Linux Standard Base (LSB). It's not in their interest,
> if they can convince the world that they are the "standard" in
> certification and the "standard Linux" they can lock in more businesses.
>
> To not recognise these issues when talking about RedHat is to do a
> disservice to certifications and to the LSB standard efforts.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> Thomas Cameron wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-01-03 at 13:10 -0600, Eric Waguespack wrote:
> >
> >>Well is it possible that it could have more than one purpose?
> >>
> >>(that is a rhetorical question, of course it is)
> >>
> >>I mean obviously the RHCE could arguable accomplish some of the following:
> >>
> >>make $$ for redhat
> >>give employers a way of thinning the herd
> >>give sysadmins a way of testing themselves
> >>help market redhat linux specifically, and linux in general
> >>
> >>having said all that, it seems like this cert debate has been going on
> >>in one form or another for about 10 years, does it really matter?
> >>
> >>(another rhetorical question =), of course it doesn't)
> >>
> >>-Eric, RHCE, RHCT, CCNP, CCNP/Voice, CCDP, CCNA, CCDA, LPIC-1, MCSE:
> >>NT4.0, MCP+I, Linux+, Security+, Network+, i-Net+, Server+, A+, IBM
> >>CS: AS/400, CNX: Ethernet
> >
> >
> > I think that's a very fair assessment.  I just take issue with the
> > statement that the RHCE is nothing but a money-making vehicle for Red
> > Hat.  That is simply not true.  It does make Red Hat money, no doubt.
> > They offer a great product at a fair price.
> >
> > But it is also a very valuable certification to sysadmins and employers
> > both.  To denigrate it like the earlier poster did is out of line.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
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