[NTLUG:Discuss] Re: Discuss Digest, Vol 24, Issue 7

[Paul Ingendorf]

I would just like to add that the FCC's support of Hd TV has little to do
with improving your television experience and more to do with reclaiming
various broadcast space that is currently inefficiently utilized.  The
selling point to the consumer was higher quality plus the potential for
other offerings due to the digital content.  What incentive is there for
broadcasters to move over so they get a "fare deal"?  They allowed various
forms of digital rights management to be included in the deal.  This was not
done intentionally against consumers but rather to entice broadcasters to
make the switch.  This was not done to prevent you from utilizing the
content but rather to aid in the protection of copyright holders.  Just like
the VCR was not intended to be used as a means of pirating movies the
broadcast flag is merely intended to help aid copyright holders rights from
being infringed upon.

For more info that covers both the consumer and broadcaster issues see
http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/.

There are a lot of white papers and press releases that when put together
show the entire picture including the 5 Ws that our news media seem to have
forgotten.

In the end the technology is one that will have to be universal and easily
accessible.  This makes it ripe for EE who currently have a lot of time on
their hands to fool around with.  So I wouldn't worry to much about not
being able to record your favorite shows or and kind of time shifting in the
future as there are many who look at fare use throw their middle finger up
in the air and do whatever they please.  Don't be surprised if future TVs,
DVRs and the like have simple key presses that disable things like the
broadcast flag in the future.  After all we saw how region coding worked for
DVDs.

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B.S., er, Brian :-), my stmt was not directed solely at you, hence
"you _GUYS_ ...".  I've received several emails from members of
this list accusing me of wanting to pirate TV shows or otherwise
break the law. Re-read my orig. post of this topic. I was ASKING
if torrent is a legal means of me [timeshifting] an OTA TV show.

So, is questioning my nationality a bus. or tech. topic?  :-)
Not that it's relevant to the topic but, I'm 100% American.  Born
here and family tree here too, well, at some point everyone's
linage is not from USA but...

I never said the gov. INVENTED, just helped it be possible. For
example: HDTV. Do you honestly believe we would have FREE HDTV
broadcasts (at least within this decade) if it wasn't for the gov.
MANDATING x% broadcasts be in HDTV by y date? Again, it is
still not relevant to my original [RETRACTED!] question.

IIRC, BitTorrent works by getting pieces of a file from diff systems,
not the whole file from one system. It's entirely possible, technically,
right now. And being done, right now. Legally? Doubtful (and
therefore not an option for me.) But, AGAIN, I already stated that
I AGREE it is not a good use of bandwidth.

Tell you what, buy an HDTV PVR after July 2005. Then the day
you get a "recording denied" type of message (thanks to the
broadcast flag saying recording is't allowed) when trying to
timeshift an OTA non-PPV TV show - you might realize just
how valid my gripe is about the broadcast flag.

Still object to what I say? Fine. Can we just move on and agree
that we simply have different OPINIONS?  I don't care to waste
any more time bantering symantics or other non-reletant replies
to a topic the I've already requested an end to.
=TR=

PS: Brian, please try not to take offense (notice the smilies!)


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