[NTLUG:Discuss] Hidden Malware in offshore productsraisesconcerns
Neil Aggarwal
neil at JAMMConsulting.com
Sat Sep 13 21:16:31 CDT 2003
Greg:
The real problem is that the cost of running a business in the
US is far more expensive than running one overseas.
The playing field is not a level one for US companies.
How am I supposed to be able to compete against someone
whose cost of operation is a tenth of mine?
Neil
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> [mailto:discuss-bounces at ntlug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Edwards
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:15 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Hidden Malware in offshore
> productsraisesconcerns
>
>
> Lance Simmons wrote:
>
> > Consumers demand cheap avocados and cheap technology, and
> the Buchanan
> > and Nader campaigns in 2000 uncovered no groundswell of support for
> > limiting that demand.
> >
>
> I grant that you're right on one front. The consumer has
> accepted that
> price and perception over real quality is acceptable. Part
> of that we
> can only blame ourselves for since our entire industry stood
> by and let
> Mr. Bill (SNL & Gates if you missed that one) convince upper
> management
> and the general user that there's no such thing as bug free software.
>
> However you are way off on globalization. The drain of
> technology jobs
> has nothing to do with free trade and gloablization. Unlike many
> industries that have seen a mass exodus the labor costs for
> these jobs
> were a result of the free market system, not union wage
> negotiations. I
> don't mean to sound cruel, but these are not textile workers
> earning 3
> times the value of their work. These are the people that created the
> technology that some MBA type claims he should be paid 8 figures to
> oversee the demise of. Engineers built MCI and MBAs destroyed it,
> that's a fact!!
>
> Tom is right about the tech sector making a stand and not
> dying despite
> the best efforts of the so called business geniuses. Where I see it
> happening right now is the number of people that have decided
> to write
> those new programs for the internet and the hell with IBM, Northern
> Telecom, AT&T, HP, Price Waterhouse, The Associates, and the rest of
> them. These companies have made billions from our work and now they
> think they can make 10 times that by paying an Indian worker $8/hr.
>
> I predict that in the next year the number of new independent
> software
> vendors selling products directly to users on the internet will
> overwhelm even the biggest software houses. Hey, if they
> won't pay us
> to built it for them maybe we'll just pay ourselves for building it!!!
>
> Let the MBAs have their 8 figure incomes and lets see them build the
> next Quicken or the next generation broadband without us!!! And lets
> see them compete against the IP that they walked out the door
> with all
> of the product knowledge tucked neatly away in the heads leaving the
> building.
>
> --
> Greg Edwards
> New Age Software, Inc. - http://www.nas-inet.com
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