[NTLUG:Discuss] Hidden Malware in offshore productsraisesconcerns

Neil Aggarwal neil at JAMMConsulting.com
Sat Sep 13 21:16:31 CDT 2003


Greg:

The real problem is that the cost of running a business in the
US is far more expensive than running one overseas.

The playing field is not a level one for US companies.

How am I supposed to be able to compete against someone
whose cost of operation is a tenth of mine?

	Neil


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: discuss-bounces at ntlug.org 
> [mailto:discuss-bounces at ntlug.org] On Behalf Of Greg Edwards
> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2003 8:15 PM
> To: NTLUG Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Hidden Malware in offshore 
> productsraisesconcerns
> 
> 
> Lance Simmons wrote:
> 
> > Consumers demand cheap avocados and cheap technology, and 
> the Buchanan
> > and Nader campaigns in 2000 uncovered no groundswell of support for
> > limiting that demand.
> > 
> 
> I grant that you're right on one front.  The consumer has 
> accepted that 
> price and perception over real quality is acceptable.  Part 
> of that we 
> can only blame ourselves for since our entire industry stood 
> by and let 
> Mr. Bill (SNL & Gates if you missed that one) convince upper 
> management 
> and the general user that there's no such thing as bug free software.
> 
> However you are way off on globalization.  The drain of 
> technology jobs 
> has nothing to do with free trade and gloablization.  Unlike many 
> industries that have seen a mass exodus the labor costs for 
> these jobs 
> were a result of the free market system, not union wage 
> negotiations.  I 
> don't mean to sound cruel, but these are not textile workers 
> earning 3 
> times the value of their work.  These are the people that created the 
> technology that some MBA type claims he should be paid 8 figures to 
> oversee the demise of.  Engineers built MCI and MBAs destroyed it, 
> that's a fact!!
> 
> Tom is right about the tech sector making a stand and not 
> dying despite 
> the best efforts of the so called business geniuses.  Where I see it 
> happening right now is the number of people that have decided 
> to write 
> those new programs for the internet and the hell with IBM, Northern 
> Telecom, AT&T, HP, Price Waterhouse, The Associates, and the rest of 
> them.  These companies have made billions from our work and now they 
> think they can make 10 times that by paying an Indian worker $8/hr.
> 
> I predict that in the next year the number of new independent 
> software 
> vendors selling products directly to users on the internet will 
> overwhelm even the biggest software houses.  Hey, if they 
> won't pay us 
> to built it for them maybe we'll just pay ourselves for building it!!!
> 
> Let the MBAs have their 8 figure incomes and lets see them build the 
> next Quicken or the next generation broadband without us!!!  And lets 
> see them compete against the IP that they walked out the door 
> with all 
> of the product knowledge tucked neatly away in the heads leaving the 
> building.
> 
> -- 
> Greg Edwards
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