[NTLUG:Discuss] Hi, all

[Bug Hunter]

On 24 Oct 2002, MadHat wrote:

> On Thu, 2002-10-24 at 00:50, Christopher Baker wrote:
> > > Training is still an important part of getting IT
> > > employees up to speed on new technology..... I would
> > > say certifications are not a complete waste.
> > 
> > It's a waste if it doesn't help in the job market. I don't think mine
> > have helped at all. In some cases, they may have actually hurt.
> > 
> > I did not say that I am against education. What I am against is scam
> > artists telling people that certifications are the ticket to big bucks.
> > 
> > I got my current job from a guy who moved back in with his parents so he
> > could work more on his MCSE. There is an entire industry scamming people
> > like him. He thinks that if he spends time and money that this is going
> > to pay off.
> > 
> > The only people who will tell you that certifications are worthwhile
> > are the people who profit from them.
> 
> Security Cert specific, but a good idea of how most certs seem to be
> now.  As someone who is trying to hire (not locally), Certs don't even
> come into play, but I know specifically what we are looking for.
> http://online.securityfocus.com/cgi-bin/sfonline/columnists-item.pl?id=118
> 
> 

  I once went into an office and a man asked me to configure something on 
windows.  I did it in about 2 minutes.  He said "Wow! A MSCE said it could 
not be done!"

  Those people have given a bad name to certs.