[NTLUG:Discuss] Undoing Windows Sytle ls foo

[MadHat]

On Tue, 2002-08-27 at 22:54, kbrannen at gte.net wrote:
> MadHat wrote:
> > On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 13:27, Kenneth Loafman wrote:
> > 
> >>Just upgraded from RH 6.2 to 7.3.  All is well except I can't seem to 
> >>find which switches were installed that cause the oddball directory 
> >>listing.  I want (need) to have the old style UNIX directory listings 
> >>with the dot-foo stuff first, alphabetized with case-sensitivity, etc. 
> >> This new listing looks too much like the crap Windows users have to 
> >>contend with.
> > 
> > 
> > Its not a library or a compile problem... it is a feature.  Red Hat is
> > now setting LANG variables in the /etc/profile.d/lang.sh and
> > /etc/profile.d/lang.csh scripts to support foreign languages.  
> > 
> > By default for english, it is setting LANG to en_US.iso885915, if you
> > set LANG to just en, it goes back to 'normal' (yeh!!)
> > 
> > The value is actually set in /etc/sysconfig/i18n for the whole system or
> > you can also create a local file ~/.i18n and put LANG=en in it to
> > override the system defaults.
> 
> Except that I've seen this problem on SuSE too.  So I guess you'd say they 
> followed RH's lead, then changed it back?  Unsetting LANG, or setting it to 
> "en_US.iso885915" on both my SuSE 8.0 and a RH 7.2 machine don't cause it to 
> "go bad".  (BTW, my RH7.2 system defaults it to "en_US".)

I am not saying it is RedHat specific, I was saying that RedHat was not
setting it to 'en' and setting it to 'en' would fix the issue.  

It is a feature of many programs, as if you change LANG it affects MANY
programs, like my evolution sorts differently, and my menu items sort
differently in KDE.  It is a system wide feature for making Linux/Unix
and its apps more portable to other languages.  The Default is going to
depend on the options you choose at setup. 

> 
> I also do not find LANG mentioned anywhere in the man page (or the info page). 
>   Where did you find this tidbit?  I wonder what else I'm missing... :-)
> 

google, reading, searching, thinking.

$ man bash

"      LANG   Used to determine the locale category for any cate-
              gory  not  specifically  selected  with  a variable
              starting with LC_."


> Kevin
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