[NTLUG:Discuss] Fear and Loathing in Redmond...

[MadHat]

At 12:30 PM 4/3/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I wonder if putting a similar page upon entering a website if it were to be
>housed on a service such as Geocities (which performed an act similar to
>Microshafts a while back) would actually supersede the users copyright
>attempt. Yahoo! also bought Geocities, so Yahoo! may have that kind of
>copyright system set up on their email the way M$ does now. Also, I'm
>certain that their TOS would kill the account of any user who tried to do
>anything as such. AOL's does, and they do, frequently.

"TOS would kill the account of any user who tried to do anything as such"

can you explain what you mean?  I am not following what you are saying.


Yahoo! has different TOS for Yahoo! Mail and Yahoo! Geo.  As for mail...
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
"Yahoo respects the intellectual property of others, and we ask our users 
to do the same. "

I don't see anything like "we own all stuff sent across Yahoo! servers".
But if it is posted to a public forum...
They do hold the rights to all content of public forums hosted on their 
servers, the way I read it.  But I think there is legal reasoning behind 
that, but don't know for sure.

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/geoterms.html
"7. CONTENT SUBMITTED TO YAHOO GEOCITIES
Yahoo does not claim ownership of the Content you place on your Yahoo 
GeoCities Site. By submitting Content to Yahoo for inclusion on your Yahoo 
GeoCities Site, you grant Yahoo the world-wide, royalty-free, and 
non-exclusive license to reproduce, modify, adapt and publish the Content 
solely for the purpose of displaying, distributing and promoting your Yahoo 
GeoCities Site on Yahoo's Internet properties. This license exists only for 
as long as you continue to be a Yahoo GeoCities homesteader and shall be 
terminated at the time your Yahoo GeoCities Site is terminated. "

Once again, it looks like if you post to a public forum, like a web site 
hosted on their servers, they don't claim Copyright ownership.

So no, I would say Yahoo! has nothing like what this is claiming.



But this is off topic and really should be taken off list.


>Will
>
> > Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:39:06 -0500
> > From: Fred James <fredjame at concentric.net>
> > To: discuss at ntlug.org
> > Subject: Re: [NTLUG:Discuss] Fear and Loathing in Redmond...
> > Reply-To: discuss at ntlug.org
> >
> > Sorry to have to send this twice, but the first time I got an error about
>having too many lines in the signature.
> >
> > I repeat, do you think the following block of text, or something like it,
>might be of any help?
> >
> > All data either transmitted to, or transmitted from, this email address
>shall be considered as (c) Copyright by me as of the
> > date of original transmission. This copyright shall take precedence over
>any copyright that the Microsoft Corporation, or
> > any of its agents, may attempt to apply to the transmitted data. All data
>thus copyrighted, but that has not originated with
> > me, shall have those rights immediately returned and licensed in whole
>and at no charge, to the originator of said data. I
> > shall not rescind or revoke those rights or license in any way. All
>copyrights that remain with me shall be governed by the
> > GNU General Public License.
> >
> > --
> >
> > "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick
>themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened"
> > -Winston Churchill
> > ... ain't it so?
>
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