I say to heck with the ergo's. They'll have to pry my Happy Hacking Keyboard from my cold dead fingers! Get yours today: http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhkbindex.html -- Travis Bell -aka- MudPoet echo tjbexx at usa.nyz | tr xyz let http://tjbell.dhs.org ICQ: 6014042 - AIM: MudPoet